Last month an extraordinary personal account of the workings of CMA was posted on Reddit. It’s overdue I covered it. It is written by an anonymous ex-CMA member.
I say extraordinary because it’s breathtakingly detailed and captures the reader’s attention as it lays out many aspects and practices of CMA, “Master John Douglas”, Christopher Hartnett and their constructed world of manipulation. The author’s psychological and financial struggles caused by CMA are also described. Thankfully they are now in a comfortable enough place to make public their story.
Some information in the post I cannot verify but is more than plausible based on what I do know. Other parts confirm things I’ve suspected, have written about and other stories I’ve received. Some parts are repeats of CMA lore.
An interesting reply to the post by another user greatly backs it up and is worth including here. I can’t verify everything but again, it matches certain facts I know, not all of which I’ve written about yet:
… When I first had my suspicions about John there was very little on the web about him. Using an alias and multitudes of LLCs makes the trail very fuzzy. Hopefully people who have just been introduced can find this info and see the red flags before they are blind to them.
I have witnessed members being chastised (by John) for getting antibiotics when John’s healing didn’t work. I have seen others quietly seek out western medicine when simple health issues could not be resolved with John’s healing. I have seen people ignore health problems that started out small and became threatening issues because they were reluctant to seek the advice of a doctor for fear it would reflect poorly on their level of faith. People get food poisoning despite using the food disc (even with John at the table!) and sick despite using the cold and flu disc, so the evidence that these tools don’t work are there in plain view. But the pressure to keep up the charade that the healings work is intense. Anyone who challenges too much is ostracized. When the tools and healings don’t work excuses are made which usually falls on that person’s karmic shortcomings.
The elite workshop originated because John wanted to buy a very expensive house in Australia. He needed money fast to make the purchase and so they scrambled to put the elite workshop together, totally suckering those initial attendees into thinking it was some divine course that had been gifted by the angels. I can’t believe they pulled it off and have continued to find people willing to spend $10,000. But when the angels instruct John to travel abroad to exotic destinations and buy million-dollar properties and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars renovating them….well…..that money has to come from somewhere.
To those in CMA’s orbit: ask yourself how well it tallies with your gut feelings. Ponder what you do and don’t know about CMA and MJD and what gaps this new information fills in.
Like any cult, ex-CMA people often feel embarrassed and ashamed for being duped and would rather not talk about it. Years of wasted time, energy and money. It’s no surprise stresses caused by CMA-inflicted spiritual abuse would cause depression and other problems even when CMA are in the rear view mirror; which may also envelope friends and family.
CMA exploit the fallacy of the sunken cost, having persuaded their believers karma will eventually become balanced given enough time and enough use of their spiritual tools and workshops.
CMA is full of people who know under the surface it’s bogus but have invested so much they want to see it through to an end that doesn’t come.
This sunken cost has caused significant debt for some escapees and current CMA members. Meaning the health issues that probably got them seeking MJD’s ‘healing’ are now compounded with financial worries.
For all these reasons CMA must be investigated and torn apart. MJD, Hartnett and their inner circle are responsible for psychological torment of multiple persons for personal financial gain.
Lots of activity by CMA chairman and founder Christopher Hartnett on Reddit in the week following publication of The Daily Beast (DB) article on February 24.
He continues to show traits of an angry narcissist of some kind, as I mentioned here. Confrontational screeds with disparaging attacks is his style. He left 20 comments between February 27 and March 1. His ‘GunPorn‘ photo was deleted around same period.
In the wake of the DB article and other developments it’s not only these new comments that reveal his state of mind: edits he’s made to older comments are especially interesting and worth recording here. I am sure Hartnett did not consider it’s possible his edits can be compared to the originals, as I will do below. I’m also including new audio clips from Hartnett’s 2019 internal CMA conference call which are relevant and important.
Hartnett did not like the DB article one bit and appears to be under impression it was sourced from Reddit and hence spends a lot of energy attacking the platform, its users and the journalist. Cult writer and undue influence expert Steven Hassan quoted in that article also gets admonished repeatedly.
There’s too much to include everything here. Some selections:
Hartnett’s crude lack of consideration and absence of empathy is all over the above Reddit comment: DB, Cheyenne Roundtree and Reddit are ‘raping McKayla again’ he says.
I don’t know where the $125 pricetag for pendants is from. The cheapest CMA currently sell is a small silver one for $149.99 which McKayla visibly doesn’t have. On the contrary she has at least two large pendants in gold and silver as I covered.
The people perpetuating nonsense are Hartnett and MJD by selling this moronic church which is a cult to McKayla and others.
Forums like Reddit aren’t cults: for one thing, opposing views are allowed and discussed as Hartnett is taking part in himself. Unlike in CMA where no signs of discontent or contrary views are entertained or published, and dissent and questions will get you excluded and silenced.
I’m posting here a new clip from the 2019 internal CMA conference call demonstrating Hartnett’s attitude to doubters and waverers:
There’s not a person on this call … who I know doesn’t love John more than practically anything else in creation. And we’re gonna start from there.
But if you really love him and you really want to see this be a multi-billion dollar enterprise, which it’s going to be regardless, and since we can’t fallow you, what we can do is put you out to pasture and not love you in the sense that you’re not part of the business, you’re not part of helping the world. But you will feel horrible because the moment you realize what is actually happening you will do anything in your power to make this happen because there’s nothing greater for anybody to do in the universe than what we’re doing right now.
There’s so many beings watching what’s happening now they wish they were in human bodies so they could help us. They wish they were here. And we’ve been given that, we’ve been given those human rights to be here, for whatever reason.
Lest anyone in CMA forget the greatest way to spend your life is helping MJD’s mission: they should be grateful they’re alive on Earth where they can effect the change MJD wants. Hartnett tells dissenters dead people are envious of their life. So fall in line, get back to the job and you won’t need to torment yourself at what you lost in CMA.
“Your dark shadow” in the previous Reddit quote brought to mind a YouTube comment I’ve had in back of my mind since I first saw it (video since deleted) which is overdue being shared on the blog:
Back to Reddit:
51,000 is an interesting number. Interesting because it shows how far CMA are from the 300,000 ‘souls’ Hartnett boasted he wanted to save two years ago. Another clip from his 2019 conference call with CMA higher-ups, which also gives a sense of the tone of voice his Reddit comments must have been written in:
“But why would anybody get in the way of anything good? You have to ask yourself this. Why is you so important? Why am I so important that we can stop John’s mission, how would you feel if you died and you were the one that was stopping people from their evolution? And because we get into our own heads, our own self-pity, our own problems that we then start to project that and muddy up the waters.
We want a clear, crystal diamond path to salvation for every one of the 300,000 souls we’re trying to do. And many of us are here on Earth only for that, and that’s all we’re gonna do. And we’re gonna do it with or without the people huffing. If you don’t help and you don’t like people being selfless when they’re working and you have to impose yourself on people then we’ll sit you down on the bench and we’ll be nice to you, we’ll say Hi to you, come to the events, you can get blessed and play your CDs by yourself and so be it.
And the moment you die you say “Oh my god, I was one of the 60 people on Earth out of 7.5 billion that had a chance for the most direct path on Earth to save humanity and I blew it!”
And you don’t want to feel that way believe me. And many of you have already felt that in many other lifetimes, you don’t want to feel like you blew it.
This is the lifetime that we’re gonna shine, this is the lifetime we’re gonna be our best self. John has given us blessing after blessing after blessing, many of us are such barbarians we don’t deserve this but he’s given to us none the less.
Hartnett, 28 October 2019
There’s a lot to digest there. I intend to write a dedicated post with full context what he’s talking about. But why 300,000 souls? I am clueless.
Back to Reddit, and Hartnett feverishly insists all healing is performed by God, Jesus, anyone besides MJD :
This insistence by Hartnett is mirrored in a new large disclaimer added to beginning of CMA’s About page:
Both are desperate to say MJD doesn’t do healing. But CMA and MJD have obviously said otherwise many times: the audio and other blatant evidence are all over my blog.
“No individual or human being does healing for CMA” – this point we can agree on. MJD and his Elites’ inability to heal has never been in doubt outside CMA. But this poor attempt at a strong legal text doesn’t address the problem: MJD professes he can heal and he sells himself on those lies. He professes he talks to angels and knows of undiscovered microscopic parasites. He pretends to be called Master John Douglas. And CMA promote him, his ‘abilities’ and his ‘healing’ tools and seminars as ways to be healed.
“We don’t want anyone to think any human person is doing the healing. All healing comes from God. We want to be clear about that without question.” – again this couldn’t be more false. Hartnett misses the point as he often does when defending MJD. No healing is taking place but is promoted through fake science, bogus testimonials, and brainwashing seminars. There are 100s of testimonials thanking MJD for healing which CMA spread through specific hashtags on social media, and encourage followers to thank and praise MJD for what he’s done for them. And again there is all the audio and promotional material I’ve posted.
But in fact we need go no further than the same About page to see Hartnett and the new disclaimer are contradicting themselves. A few sections down is:
Even if that highlighted line gets removed from the About page it will not remove the countless other times CMA and MJD have said he can heal. MJD appears to be a kind of Schrödinger’s Healer: a master healer while at same time doing no healing. A similiar paradox as CMA not being able to decide if MJD’s powers are based on science or faith.
“Healers” is an endemic belief among CMA followers, as I’ve shown many times. Here we see an Elite, ‘L’, completely forgetting CMA’s disclaimers about seeking professional medical care first:
None of the other Elites in that comment thread ‘corrected’ L or reminded her MJD and his SFR tool are officially secondary options, not first port of call.
But CMA know ‘healer’ is a word fraught with legal issues. One example of CMA covering their backs is this change in description of so-called ‘F’ events, removing the title “Elite Healer”:
Back to Hartnett’s recent Reddit comments:
“Totally transparent” is false. As I’ve explained here and elsewhere there are no transparent donations made. CMA and SELF Foundation money is moved around a network of obscure companies, of which I shall be posting more about in the future.
“You are weak secret hiding sauce” – one of Hartnett’s tamer insults. “Weak”, “snowflake”, “hater”, “virtue signaling” just some of the words Hartnett uses trying to defend CMA. Maybe he should have given the job instead to CMA’s “legal expert” Jeffrey Wagner – “one of the top legal minds of the world” supposedly.
Hartnett doesn’t disagree he talks like a gangster:
Like a gangster on the lam, Hartnett may be having a meltdown seeing his machinations and co-conspirators falling apart. Gangsters need their day in court and jailtime.
Editor in Chief
Now a look at the edits I mentioned Hartnett has made to his old comments.
The edits show attemps to rewrite history: in an effort to decrease his apparent responsibilty and authority in CMA.
“I am the Chairman of the Foundation” becomes “I am a member of the Foundation“:
The 27 Nov 2020 comment above is the first comment by ‘tedhens’, boldy announcing himself as Chairman. Which tells us he is Hartnett (alongside additional evidence I’m leaving for a dedicated post.)
In the 24 Dec 2020 comment above he writes he’s “senior pastor”. I don’t remember ever hearing him called that before. Certainly a step down from Chairman. But still a typically overblown title from Hartnett.
On 28 Feb 2021, we seem to have a massive fall in Hartnett’s position in CMA. So great he feels the need to go back and edit his first comment to say he’s merely a “member”!
Hartnett’s choice of CMA identity on Reddit descends from Chairman to Senior Pastor to member, decreasing anyone’s ability to identify him personally (or so he thinks.)
This sequence of comments and edits show Hartnett wants to cover-up his identity and role. But it’s too late: it’s on record and the edit and man behind the account is known. And in truth his role hasn’t changed.
The Dec 24 comment above was also subjected to later editing on Feb 28, more damning than Edit #1.
“I have the Church, not him. I am the senior pastor so if you have a beef, it should be with me and not him. He doesn’t touch the money, I do” becomes “He is the guest Pastor. So if you have a beef, it should be with our Church Council and not him. He doesn’t touch the money, we do.” :
Red edit: Hartnett is trying to remove his admission of responsibilty for CMA’s money, passing it off to an imaginary “Church Council”. This “Church Council” may as well be Hartnett’s equivalent of MJD’s “master angels” – conjured-up entities to take credit for actual people’s actions. And what of his wife Linda Hartnett and Greta Huizenga, listed as treasurers of CMA and SELF?
In the blue edit, Hartnett removes the idea he’s the “senior pastor” and in its place he says MJD is “guest pastor”. This is Hartnett again insisting MJD is independent of CMA with no role besides a “guest” of the organization. “This organization is not Master John Douglas’s organization” he wrote on 27 Nov 2020. But it’s all lies. A setup to ultimately hide that CMA’s multi-million dollar revenue is funneled to MJD’s real-life self, contrary to strict regulations for 501(c)(3) charitable organizations.
The lie is proved in these next two damning clips from 2019’s internal conference call where Hartnett is speaking only to key CMA people. He makes it crystal clear MJD is the real power at top of the organization’s hierarchy. I was quite shocked how blatantly he was speaking of it, but remember he is not speaking to the public here. His audience was around 60 CMA Elites and other higher-ups. Please credit and link DFHM if you share:
And when you say “I’m gonna go see John” or “I’m gonna go do this or that” you were talking to us. You’re not going anywhere around anybody. Nobody including me has credentials that were gonna supersede the organization that’s here and go directly to John. John is in charge. What he wants is there.
This is all divine, this is all being run by divinity. And you have the ability to scan at any given moment to see the truth of every single word I’m saying. Because this is not coming from us, we’re not making this up.
And we want you all to be there at the finish line. You can feel it, we’re ready to explode.
We can be manipulated and we can be manipulative. We’ve done this for centuries. There were kingdoms, we had high priestesses, all types of people that were out there running all different civilizations. And now they come in and don’t understand why people don’t jump when they say something.
We have so many kings and queens in this group that we could either kill each other, bump into each other or we can fall in love and fall in line.
That line and love of path is like a triangle. If you could picture it in your head, and indulge me for a second. At the very top is John. He has a thought; his thought should filter through the entire organization and get all the way to the bottom where the masses are without any obstruction.
Conclusively, in this audio we hear Hartnett declare MJD is in charge and must be obeyed. Destroying the public claim MJD “doesn’t have a Church”; is merely a “guest” or “frequent speaker”; that those organizations are separate from him. In fact, the whole organization, from its roots built on lies to every shady branch to every leaf of its adoring membership is for MJD’s benefit, glorification and control. What’s more, this is a one-way relationship.
Hartnett likens the key people on the call to kings and queens, with MJD as God. And talks about divinity. I think he’s trying to say if the “kings and queens” of CMA faithfully followed MJD’s “divine” wishes better and put their trust in him, then the “masses” would obey their commands.
In this way, the “divine right” originates as a metaphysical act of humility or submission towards God. The divine right has been a key element for legitimizing many absolute monarchies.
Consequentially, it asserts that a monarch is not accountable to an earthly authority (such as a parliament) because their right to rule is derived from divine authority. The monarch is thus not subject to the will of his people, of the aristocracy, or of any other estate of the realm.
… which mirrors exactly Hartnett’s and MJD’s belief they aren’t – and won’t be – accountable for anything. I have no doubt both men would refuse to recognize the legitimacy of any earthly court or process against them. Like many wrongdoers declaring “only God can judge me”.
“If you have beef, it should be with me” becomes “If you have beef, it should be with our Church Council“. Again Hartnett tries to show a decrease of his influence and status in CMA, thereby decreasing his future legal accountability, he probably thinks. But the edits are here to see.
Earlier he went from Chairman to senior pastor to merely a ‘member’. No surprise he denies he’s personally or soley responsible for anything. In his mind he’s innocent of any wrong doing, financial or otherwise. But if he won’t accept accountability, who is left to pass it on to?
Not MJD. Though Hartnett curiously doesn’t name him in his newest batch of comments he’s still defending him on his behalf by diminishing his role, declaring he too is not accountable, which is laughable. A character trait MJD and Hartnett share that I’ve discussed before. He’s not pushing blame onto MJD but he would if he had a backbone. So who does Hartnett expect to take the hit for him when justice comes knocking?
A third edit gives us the answer.
This is a small but crucial change Hartnett made to his long 27 Nov 2020 comment.
“100% of our volunteer staff have been healed in one way or another” becomes “100% of our volunteer staff have been healed by Godin one way or another“:
Clearly Hartnett realized the original version leaves open the credit who did the healing to an unacceptable degree and didn’t sufficiently absolve MJD, so he alters it to put responsibility exclusively onto actual God like in CMA’s legal disclaimers. Like a beneficial “an act of God” for which no human can be held responsible.
Hartnett is an arrogant man who thinks his view of the universe is unquestionably the right one. Disagreements are attacks on his ‘pure’ and ‘good’ vision of the world and the souls inhabiting it and trying to elevate it. He will never see the flaws in his approach or understand other people have problems with it.
If you don’t believe in God the differences are unresolvable: he’ll end the discussion, as if he refuses to entertain the thought God doesn’t exist. That would crumble his whole grand idea, learned from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and appropriated by MJD via transcendental meditation. Eternal human souls living and reincarnating between worlds, elevating to perfect unquestioning “oneness” with the creator. Insanely, he believes MJD is the way to achieve it in this lifetime.
With no God to submit to, there would be no-one left for Hartnett to blame except himself.
His comments and edits I’ve described here come across as an angry, rushed reaction to the damaging ‘cult’ label. He’s like a hitherto all-powerful dictator who sees the tide finally starting to turn against him.
Or is it simple frustration seeing external criticism is starting to outrank CMA’s own material in search results?
One of the first critical and rational assessments of MJD/CMA I found was bizarrely by an anonymous ex-employee of the sex-toy manufacturer Fleshlight. It’s posted on Glassdoor 12 September 2019 in context of a review of the Fleshlight company as an employer. Fleshlight and parent company Interactive Life Forms (ILF) are based in Austin, Texas since 1995 and hail themselves as The #1 Male Sex Toy in the World.
The CEO is part of a religious group call The Master Angels. I think it’s fair to describe them as a cult since they center around a charismatic leader named Master John Douglas who claims he can cure cancer, lyme disease, etc. He hosts $250 seminars and sells supplements, DVDs and healing jewelry online.
This is relevant because 2 weeks after I was hired, my boss the CTO, one of the smartest and most decorated engineers I have ever worked with, was fired and replaced by a high priestess of the Master Angels. This woman had convinced the CEO (fraudulently) that she was capable of contacting angels in heaven via the power of crystals and that they could help her make perfect business decisions.
I am not even joking.
If you decide to take a job at ILF there are a few things you should know:
– Your opinion does not matter.
– The CEO is extremely volatile.
– You can get “terminated” for any reason or no reason at all.
– 20%-ish of the employees are the CEO’s direct family members.
– Most of the management belongs to the crystal angel cult.
– Smart people are not welcome because they are a threat to the divine.
I really hope that the CEO eventually realizes that these crystal people are lying. They cannot talk to angels. They do not have magic powers. Crystals are just rocks. The whole thing is an absolute fraud it would be great if one day they all get sued. I would love to see them try to explain their value proposition to a judge and jury.
The review mentions several of the key issues my blog covers. It serves to remind me how MJD is viewed by people not previously exposed to him and without a predilection to his karmic angel-based lies. The review acknowledges the absurdness of CMA and MJD. It describes how CMA are a negative influence not only on personal and spiritual development but careers and business decisions.
“High priestess” is not an official CMA term as far as I know but it sounds like the reviewer is describing one of “400+” Elite Development course graduates who believe MJD has taught them to commune with angels and see viruses inside people at the molecular-level using “remote sensing” just like he supposedly can.
“Convinced the CEO (fraudulently) that she was capable of contacting angels in heaven via the power of crystals and that they could help her make perfect business decisions” tells us this CMA devotee applies MJD’s teachings to all areas of life.
Two relevant teleseminar clips of MJD talking about reforming everything you are through his CDs, courses and “processes”:
“Smart people are not welcome because they are a threat to the divine” mirrors exactly what MJD teaches about “stopping the machine” of one’s “interferring” rational intellect lest it obstruct “oneness”, “divine bliss” and “cleaning out the crappy notions around your issues”:
The review describes the CMA member installing like-minded colleagues into other management roles. A covert way for a cult to take over a company.
I tip my hat to the anonymous reviewer for sharing this rare insight of the influence of CMA members within an established business. And for not holding back: “The whole thing is an absolute fraud it would be great if one day they all get sued.”
The CEO and founder of Fleshlight is Steve Shubin. Here are more worrying quotes from other reviews of Fleshlight and Shubin (some predate CMA):
Steve Shubin, the CEO, is a full-tilt bozo idiot.
The company is owned by a master manipulator, Steve Shubin.
Poor leadership, no direction, compensation, benefits, creepy owner and his old wife [Kathy (Harter) Shubin, ex-professional tennis player] lurking around.
Private company constantly at the whims of a bored and ridiculously wealthy CEO who does not understand how modern companies function and operate.
Habitually fires large groups of people. Sometimes with good reason and sometimes for no reason at all.
There is no management, only a crazy millionaire steroid freak owner. And he sleeps in an egg shaped sensory deprivation chamber.
Every single day is filled with lies, firings, half-truths, and hardships. Decisions are made on a whim and rarely make any sense.
It is a cesspool that is now nothing more than a hobby for a bored CEO & his family; they don’t have any friends outside the company anymore, so it exists solely to feed their egos at this point.
Shubin has settled multiple times for sexual harassment.
It’s hard to imagine anyone wanting to work for Fleshlight after reading that.
“The company is owned by a master manipulator, Steve Shubin” sounds just the kind of person CMA would want for a higher-up member.
None of the reviews mention if Kathy is also CMA-affiliated. But a sidenote: Kathy’s son Aubrey Marcus runs Onnit, a multi-million dollar “human optimization and health empire” labelled by some as cult-like.
The revelation CMA are operating within the upper management of Fleshlight is intriguing by itself, but also brings to mind this odd remark made by CMA chairman Christopher Hartnett on an internal CMA conference call:
“So what do we do? We have to grow this and we can’t wait around for everybody to become CEOs of companies.
Hartnett was speaking to a selected group of leaders and higher-ups about a recent test of loyalty and commitment to CMA he conducted. The full context of that audio I’ll leave for another post but even when given context this remark puzzles me, not being clear what Hartnett was inferring.
But if we take this clip together with the Fleshlight CEO information, a possible inference is CMA are deliberately infiltrating management levels of market leading companies to influence, control and expand CMA’s reach and resources. What reach and resources? Global success and money, naturally. This was revealed in another clip from the same internal CMA conference call where Hartnett states the “natural order” of CMA is to become a “multi-billion dollar company”:
Lest we forget, CMA is a 501(c)(3)-classed organization. Such organizarions are exempt from federal income tax while required to operate exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, literary, or educational purposes.
I finish by wondering how much direct influence MJD has on Fleshlight? For example on product designs? Might MJD wish to release a range of CMA-branded sex toys? I’ve said too much.